Thursday, March 11, 2010

Richard Goldstone’s contradicting company

Judge Richard Goldstone told Israeli television that the UN is indeed biased against Israel. This gesture towards Israel is contrasted by the anti-Israel bias of the other members of his commission. This became obvious first with professor Christine Chinkin who signed a public letter that was published in the 'Times of London,' which condemned Israel for war crimes, while the war was ongoing. It described Israel’s defense of its citizens as uncalled for, even though Israel refrained from action during eight months of constant bombardment of its population centers in the south by Hamas. The last to surface was Colonel Desmond Travers, the mission’s only military expert. A retired officer of the Irish army, he served in numerous peacekeeping duties including UNIFIL. As was revealed by Dore Gold and retired Lt. Colonel Jonathan Dahoah Halevi, this former peacekeeper accused Israel in advance of deliberately killing civilians in Gaza, and as many as possible according to him. He refused to accept any Israeli evidence submitted to the commission. He claimed that such evidence is unreliable even though he could not prove it. He also accused Israel of deliberately killing Irish soldiers serving in UNIFIL: "taken out and deliberately shot". This accusation is so far unique to him, since an Internet search found no other mention of this charge. Whatever the reasons for his prejudgment, he is clearly not objective and is hostile towards Israel.

The remaining member of the commission, Hina Jilani, is a lawyer with the Pakistani Supreme Court and veteran human rights and women’s rights campaigner in her country. While it is possible that she is capable of objectivity towards Israel, such objectivity will be by Pakistani standards. In Pakistan, Israel is as reviled as much as India, and religious tension begets mass terrorism and violence. It is unlikely that one would find people there who would speak on behalf India or Israel. By contrast, in Israel there are many advocates of the Palestinian cause, but nobody would expect an Israeli to be an objective judge in a case involving an Arab or Muslim country.

It is apparent that people who have anti-Israel bias surround Judge Goldstone. It is most evident when we look at the other members of his commission, but that is not where this ends. Have a look at the ‘Institute for Criminal Investigations’ or ICI, where he serves along with Colonel Desmond Travers and Hina Jilani. This is a consultative body to the ‘International Criminal Court’ in the Hague, and one of its distinguished members is professor Cherif Bassiouni of DePaul University, a colleague of Goldstone from the Yugoslavia years. (In Yugoslavia, he served as chairman of the Security Council's commission to investigate war crimes from 1992-1994 with Goldstone, who was the chief prosecutor.) Like Judge Goldstone, Professor Bassiouni is a heavyweight in the human rights community, and was nominated for the Nobel Prize for peace in 1999. He is also a cosignatory of the public letter condemning Israel of war crimes in advance, along with Christine Chinkin and Richard Falk. Falk, the UNHRC Special Rapporteur on Conditions in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, is the best and most extreme example of the UN anti-Israel bias, see YouTube link below.

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Another association to look at is that of like-minded people. Distinguished persons like Arye Neier, whose views regarding the role of international law and human rights in this post 9/11 world have some common themes with those of judge Goldstone. This became evident at the ‘Empire and Liberty Project’ event at the ‘Carnegie Council on Ethics in International Affairs,’ in March 2004, which they both attended.

Aryeh Neier is a former senior member in the ACLU and cofounder of ‘Human Rights Watch’, where he was the vice chairman for 12 years. Currently he is the head of the ‘Open Society’ and president of the ‘Soros Foundation,’ which forms another complete circle, because organizations funded by George Soros are advancing ‘The Goldstone Report’ in Washington DC. (Heather Ryan of the ‘Open Society’ also serves in the ICI along with Goldstone and the others mentioned above.)

Aryeh Neier has no evident anti-Israel obsession, but whenever ‘Human Rights Watch’ was criticized for mistreating Israel he was there to defend, whether over Lebanon or Gaza. Even when it came from the cofounder of ‘Human Rights Watch’, Robert L. Bernstein. Bernstein`s criticism, pointed to Israel being an open society where human rights and human rights awareness can be advanced through open dialogue and education. He pointed to the need to deny moral equivalency to tyrannies that will only use it to justify and excuse their suppression of human rights in their countries.

Neier's response was to point out who is the lawyer among the two, (he is), and who is just a book vendor/publisher. He also made the bewildering suggestion that the United States was an open society during the days of slavery and racial segregation. This skewed view of history, skewed to the right by the way, has no bearing on the issue at hand because it belongs to the category of countries mistreating their own people and has nothing to do with the current dilemmas facing Israel and other democracies, that need to balance their security with concern to the civilian population in enemy-held territory.

Arye Neier belittled the concern over the exaggerated emphasis on Israel, as "dismissing democracy with a slap on the hand," a view echoed by Judge Goldstone in the interview he gave to Christiane Amanpour in her current-affairs program on CNN in September 30th 2009, and a false representation of Bernstein criticism. Not surprisingly, Neier is one of the defenders of the Goldstone report.

The ‘Empire and Liberty project’ at the Carnegie Council was aimed at confronting the new threats to human rights in this new era. No small challenge indeed and one that must never be trifled with. Before 9/11 human rights organizations focused on how governments treat the individual. After 9/11 a third factor entered the equation, the terrorist organizations, whose faith and practices are aimed at abolishing human rights completely, but whose members deserve protection of their human rights against the governments fighting them. Measures such as Guantanamo Bay, and ‘The Patriot Act’ represent serious human rights dilemmas, whether we agree with them or not. These are dilemmas, which the state of Israel and its judiciary are all too familiar with. And undeniably many governments around the world do use the war on terror as an excuse to put the squeeze on their citizens' liberties. This requires the human rights community and its experts to be prosecutors, defenders, judges, legislators, and counsel to all of them. However, at the Carnegie Council in March 2004, none of its distinguished participants rose to the occasion. Judge Richard Goldstone and Arye Neier had two dominating themes in their message: “promotion of democracy only through international law” and “democracy compliance,” an uncomfortable combination of words from a democratically concerned point of view.

But what is most noticeable is what wasn’t in their remarks. The first was a lack of alternative to the much criticized Guantanamo Bay and ‘The Patriot Act’. This is not some vague omission unique to these two men at that one long-ago event. This is a characteristic of the entire camp of critics of the Bush administration human rights policies during the war on terror. As a result of this deficiency the Obama administration cannot close Guantanamo Bay, and had even extended ‘The Patriot Act’; all because during Bush’s two terms in office none of his critics had ever searched for alternatives. This now leaves the Obama administration improvising from scratch.

What is of great concern to Israel, government and citizenry, is the lack of reference to the corruption of international law. And what can be more corrupt than a human rights council dominated by the worst human rights abusers? This is something that had existed in 2004 as well. Neier resolved this concern by the suggesting that the governments that had entered into the agreements that produced international law would take care of that, governments, which earlier in that conference were criticized on those very issues.


Goldstone Report

Neier also described suicide bombings as an act of desperation, saying that therefore nothing can be done about them. This ‘no we cannot’ approach is false; suicide bombing is the product of brainwashing and pressure. Worse than that, his faulty reasoning comes from Palestinian propaganda intended to justify the horrific wave of suicide bombings Israelis were subjected to from 2001 to 2004. Here it rationalizes his do-nothing approach. But what is really shocking is Neier’s view on the preemptive use of force as a part of the right to self-defense. While he acknowledges that the current international law allows it, he would prefer a more restrictive approach, allowing military intervention only when an attack is imminent or when there is genocide. If preemptive military intervention fails there may not be enough time for plan B when the threat is imminent, which may lead the side trying to prevent an attack to take more desperate measures that can inflict greater harm on civilians. And if genocide had just begun, then by the time a military intervention begins to take effect, there will be at least several hundred individuals for whom this will be too late, much, much too late.

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This Goldstone-Neier approach of focus on governments carries another troubling risk, the risk of losing sight of who else is confronting one of those governments alongside the human rights organizations. It can be someone like Moazzem Begg, a former Taliban fighter; released from Guantanamo Bay, who is currently advancing fundamentalist ideologies in Great Britain. And Amnesty International UK branch had no problems collaborating with him. (This makes me wonder whether Ravi Nair of the above-mentioned ICI who used to work with Amnesty International in London, shares this focus on government approach. This by no means suggests he has anything to do with that particular episode.)

Debating Dore Gold at Brandeis University on November 5, 2009, Goldstone tried to defend the membership of Christine Chinkin in the commission, despite the fact that she had prejudged the issue by signing a declaration against alleged Israeli "war crimes. He claimed that the situation was obvious based on the reports of Al-Jazeera, which he took to be an unbiased news source. That is perhaps because, as he stated, Al-Jazeera is a respected news medium in his own country of South-Africa. However, both Al-Jazeera and South-Africa are not known for their sympathy towards Israel. And if he truly respects Al-Jazeera, that suggests that his ability to identify bias in the news he receives is severely jeopardized, and the same thing can apply to his relationships with other members of his commission, as well as the ICI.

None of this suggests that Judge Richard Goldstone is not as Zionist as he claims to be. As senior Israeli journalist Yaron London has said several times, there is nothing in Goldstone’s record to suggest otherwise. The question that does arise however is more fundamental than that. Is it even possible in such conditions, such surroundings, in such atmosphere of hostility, for a human being, any human being, to maintain objectivity, and if so how much of it?

Why would Judge Richard Goldstone acquit Israel of his own charges?

Think of how he repeatedly described his report, as legally non-binding, of having no legal value whatsoever. If so, then what was the fact-finding mission all about, and on the same note, why file criminal charges against Israeli officials if the person behind the report keeps saying it has no legal merit? Does he know it won’t withstand any decent scrutiny?

There is also his reference to the repressive nature of Hamas, which he made at the Brandeis debate: “I was afraid to enter Gaza. I had nightmares that Hamas would kidnap me and that the Israelis would rejoice.” There is some worthy criticism of nasty and dishonorable segments of the Israeli society, which do exist, but there is also awareness on his part of the repressive nature of Hamas. Such repression, as in any tyranny, has the ability to get to witnesses and influence their testimony in more ways than one, something that he, as a South-African who spent most of his life and professional carrier under its repressive Apartheid regime, would know about. Yet what did he do about it? Apparently there was nothing he could do: “We got completely unsatisfactory response from Hamas… We asked them where the rockets are fired from, the answer from Hamas, we don’t know it’s the military wing. We asked them about Gilad Shalit, answer, don’t bother us that’s the military wing. Very shrewdly adopted this divorce when one hand don’t know what the other hand on the same body can do.” If they could not get a response from the armed wing of Hamas on those basic questions or any other account of their conduct, how could they tell if they were not influencing the witnesses?

Another possible reason the ‘Goldstone Report’ has no legal value is that the charge “disproportionate use of force” is not at all clear, as demonstrated by Judge Goldstone's tormented response to a question on that very issue, even though he claimed otherwise:

“Proportionality has nothing to do with comparing what one side uses and the other side uses, its got nothing to do, proportionality is what proportionate to the military advantage sought and the number of innocent civilians killed. Let me give you a simple example, if there is an ammunition factory in the middle of Austria(?) and a 1000 pound bomb can take out that ammunition factory, which is a military target, and 100 civilians are killed or a 2,000 bomb can do the same to the military factory and kill 5000, the first is proportionate, not a war crime, the second disproportionate, a war crime. …

…What would be a proportionate response? It’s a question that gave me many, many hours of sleepless nights. What is proportionate response to asymmetric situation? It may well be, is a commando operation, that may be, but that cost lives, it is a political question that the Israeli government and the Israeli military would have to tell you. A proportionate response may be to bomb the place were Israeli intelligence has information where the rockets are stored, as long as its proportionate to the military aim. But if it’s disproportionate, bombs, white phosphorus, flechettes are used, and anti-personal munitions that are designed to kill people; and not to destroy buildings, and not to destroy rockets and ammunition. It is not something we have to decide fortunately. We have to decide what action was proportionate what action was disproportionate.”


The opening sentence in this transcript contradicts the accusing letter published in the ‘Times of London,’ which was signed by his two colleagues Christine Chinkin and Cherif Bassiouni, which accused Israel of war crimes by comparing "what one side uses and the other side uses."

The example Goldstone gave gives Israel the license to level an entire neighborhood from the air if enemy combatants and weaponry are barricaded in it.

The criterion “as long as it’s proportionate to the military aim” is how the judiciary in Israel, military and civilian, is reviewing such operations; it is a case-by-case examination, comparing and examining thoroughly numerous factors in each operation. He finally settled on a weapons-based criterion, a criterion subject to manipulation, since a case can be made for and against any weapon, and a good propagandist can argue for the nuclear bomb and against the use of non-lethal weapons.

Judge Goldstone's confusion is due to many factors. The first is that this is truly a tormenting experience; it is not easy to decide what is disproportionate and what is not disproportionate, the moral and ethical dilemmas tear apart any decent person, and he is a decent person. The second reason, is that as his own answer demonstrates “disproportionate use of force” is a loose term, much like “amount to a war crime” and “self-hating Jew.” It is an open rubric where everyone can put in whatever they want. The other reason, is that, unlike former Chief Supreme Court justice Aharon Barak, he does not have a lot of experience with the chaos of war situations. Israel has accumulated nearly 60 years of experience with such torturing dilemmas, and the UN?

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Finally, there is his ‘focus on government approach’, which means that prior to the events in Gaza he gave little-to-no attention to these dilemmas, and as a result he has no clearly constructed criterion of his own. And when there is no professional criterion to apply, other, more political and ideological criteria take its place, such as the hostility of the other members of his commission towards Israel.

Goldstone Report

Related links:
Richard Goldstone and Dore Gold discuss the U.N. Gaza Report at Brandeis, use the word ‘proportionate’ at the automated transcript option and listen.
Stephanie Gutmann: In rebuking Israel and letting Hamas off the hook, the UN's Goldstone Report is a gift to world terrorism
Richard Falk on 'Al Jazeera English' talks like a Palestinian ultra nationalist.

Friday, February 26, 2010

Saturday, February 20, 2010

Fiddler on the roof in Japanese

I think this is neat, “If I were a rich man” in Japanese. And apparently it was on stage in Tokyo in 1982, I hope it was a hit.

Saturday, February 13, 2010

Haiti organs harvesting, smoke and fire

The accusation that Israel harvest and stole organs in Haiti has a stubborn on the Internet and the media. The main argument by those who support this nonsense is “where there is smoke there is fire,” there is fire all right, from the side that makes all the smoke; Their side!


Haiti organs harvesting

Friday, February 12, 2010

The ‘Daily Show’ forum, debating Israel, hope among bashing

When you ask an Israel basher a tough question you may get a reply. Whether that reply can be considered an answer that is open for interpretation.

Having seen last October that Dr. Mustafa Barghouti and Anna Baltzer were to appear as guests on the 'Daily Show' I placed a question in the Daily Show forum, suggesting to the host, Jon Stewart, to present it to his guests.

I would like to make a suggestion to Mr. Jon Stewart regarding tonight guests Dr. Mustafa Barghuoti and Anna Baltzer. My suggestion is that he should ask Dr. Barghuoti if Jews have the right for life and liberty.

Been an Israeli, and a Zionist, I naturally do not have an objective view of Dr. Barghuoti and his colleague, but I would state that I, Boaz Tibon (Dvar Dea is my pen name of a sort) acknowledge that Palestinians have the right for life and liberty, that been the freedom to live, worship, accumulate property and national freedom and self determination.

Transparently speaking the real target of the question were the various Israel bashers who kept congratulating the two guests, over time after the show aired, few replies did come, surprising they weren’t, but they were informative, especially to those who want to know why the Israeli Palestinian conflict is so protracted.

VHSingularity wrote:

Why would Jon Stewart waste time by asking his guests a question that has no basis in reality? Are you really suggesting that during the last 42 years in which Palestinians have lived under Israel's military occupation that the Palestinians have been secretly infringing on Israeli liberty? How would they even accomplish that when in the West Bank Palestinians are hardly allowed to leave their own towns? Palestinian children often face military checkpoints and harassment or even violence at the hands of Israeli settlers just on their way to school. In Gaza the situation is even more stark. You know that Israel doesn't allow for the importation of food or basic building supplies for even for homes and schools? Now how is it that the Palestinians are denied food to eat and you are talking about the the "right of accumulation of property" for Israelis??
As you have claimed that you acknowledge the right of Palestinians to self-determination, then I have a better question for you: Do you call on Israel to immediately withdraw from all territories occupied in the 1967 war, to end the military siege of Gaza and to quit the illegal and racist Jewish-only settlements in the West Bank?


The only thing standing between the Palestinians and their self-determination is the Israeli army. And by the way, I have been to the West Bank. When I say the settlements are Jewish-only, I mean... they do not allow non-Jews to enter or live there, or they will physically and violently expel you.
VHSingularity response is probably close to ‘No’. ‘Probably’ because he doesn’t say ‘Yes’ or ‘No’, he does make a big deal from the fact that the question had been asked in first place. He is upset about it. Apparently he does not acknowledge the other persons right to live as real, which suggests that elementary moral human and democratic values do not exit in his own, personal, moral code. A possibility supported by the evident fact that terrorism, that is the targeting of innocent civilians by armed Palestinians, does not exist in his response, or he simply has no problem with it.

Christine (with no capital c)  wrote:


It is not about right or wrong. It is about humanatarian needs. When the U.S. had the riots in in the ghettos during the Civil Rights, we as a country stood tall to support those rights. Here in the U.S. we tend to fight for freedom and individual rights. But, when it comes to Gaza and what is happening there you want us to turn a blind eye. The truth will be known. We will fight for people to be treated in a humane way.



Just the facts
Killed: 1,072 Israel - 6,348 Palestinians
Injured: 8,864 Israel - 39,019 Palestinians
Prisoners: 1 Israeli - 10,756 Palestinians
Children Killed: 123 Israeli - 1,435 Palestinians
Homes Destroyed: 0 Israeli - 18,147 Palestinians
Illegal settlments: 23 Jewish only settlements and outposts - 0 Palestinians
UN Resolutions broken: Israel 65 (more than all other countries combined) - Palestine 0
Money Daily Given by US Taxpayers: Israel $7,000,000 - Palestine $0


Do those in the Gaza strip have a right to live freely on their land? When will Israel stop the invasion? Kicking people out of their homes and either tearing them down or just moving in, is that right? Stealing the livelihood of a whole people, is that right?



I suppose since those people that Zionists (not Jewish) are stealing land from need a place to live you can invite them to live next door to you. (Syria is already flooded with refugees from Iraq and Palestinians.) Where do you suggest those people live? Who do you think should feed those people? Or do you have the "let them die" attitude? This land is ours and we don't care what the world thinks!


I think the U.S. should stop giving Israel the $7 million dollars every day they receive from U.S. taxpayers. Obama just recently gave a slap to American farmers. He OK'd a $17,000 rebate back to a Israel butter maker who brings his goods to American soil. He is bringing butter into the U.S. at a time when many farmers here are suffering the "recession". He also waived most tariff's and taxes f;or Israel and Israel alone. They can bring commodities into U.S. without paying for it. Therefore they can undercut our own countries livelihoods. Obama did this without the approval of the Congress.


I think we need to treat Israel the same way we treat any other country. Or better yet maybe we should treat Israel the same way they treat the Palestinians.


Let us not forget the USS Liberty!!!!!
Go to IfAmericansKnew.org
Christine has a very long and not very smart reply, as indicated by her first sentence; humanitarian is not a right or wrong issue? Of course it is. Her comparison between a war situation that exist in the Israeli Palestinian conflict and the civil rights struggle in the US is very far from reality and the numbers she brings are best described as empty, empty from content and credibility. The number of casualties on each side that she gave lacks the breakdown to combatants and non-combatants, on the Israeli side for example percentage of civilians, non-combatants, is higher then on the Palestinian side, where a significant percentage of the dead are Palestinians killed by their own people.

‘Children killed’ has its own breakdown according to age, because there is a difference between a 15 years old engaged in violent, stone throwing and Molotov Cocktail throwing demonstrations and a 4 years old playing in the street. Not forgetting omitted categories such as ‘blown up buses’ and ‘killed by a lynch mob.’ The numbers she gives regarding aid to both sides are a show of ignorance that is not helping the Palestinian cause, because Palestinians to get aide from international resources including the USA, and the loans Israel receives from the USA are definitely nor per day. And I have no idea what ‘slap to American farmers’ she’s talking about. But I guess there are more then a few like her in every crowd. Her directing me to Alison Weir infamous site is not surprising.

Related links on the statistical breakdown of casualties:
Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Institute of Counter Terrorism “An Engineered Tragedy.”


Clint wrote:


I have always been a supporter of Israel and have thought of them as one of our strongest allies. But, as an American, I believe in the concept of fairness and I have seen so many Israelis stick their fingers in their ears and scream LA! LA! LA! LA! LA! anytime anyone has the audacity to discuss the issues of the Palestinian people. Thank you Jon for taking your fingers out of your ears and facilitating a fair and even keeled discussion. You are the voice of reason in a cacophony of hate.

Clint is funny, a self proclaimed Israel supporter who knows nothing about internal debates in Israel and regards the Israelis as a whole as been unfair, and that is his response to a question that has nothing to do with his reply.

Msherif wrote:


Response to Dvar Dea: As a Palestinian who cannot return, I would like to ask you how you feel about the rt of Jews from any country being able to become citizens of Israel, but those of us non-Jewish Palestians not having the same rts. Also, Palestians who have Israeli "citizenship" are not permitted to own over 98% of the land in Israel because of their religion (the late Israel Shahak documents this apartheid system in his books). Also - Israelis are able to build on confiscated Palestinian land - in violation of international law - and the USA pays for it. So how do you, Dvar Dea, feel about Palestians having the rt to defend themselves against this injustice. Should the just say - Israelis are superior and just take it?
Msherif, him I shouldn’t have missed, though most of his reply is the usual anti Israel mantra, here as an excuse for not answering the question, it could have been a good opportunity to explain Jewish nationhood and the right of self determination for all nations, where the ‘Law of Return’ is a key tool in gaining and maintaining that right for the Jews, as well as to correct several misguided conceptions about land ownership in Israel.

Related links on land ownership in Israel:

Zionism Israel.

Jewish Virtual Library.

Middle East forum.


Canadian Arab wrote:
I would like to reply to you sir by one simple link to a website. please you call yourself a Zionist, take a moment and be proud of what your past LEADERS have said about the Palestinians and "their right to exist" because being a Zionist and believing in the right to life to Palestinians are 2 complete opposites. If you truly believe in your comment I would SUGGEST to you to never say you are a Zionist. Here's the link: http://www.monabaker.com/quotes.htm It’s quite disturbing and extremely appalling to say the least.And yes, Arabs believe in the right to life for Israelis just as long as you don't take our life in order to prosper yours.
Canadian Arab has a ‘no matter what we do we lose’ response, a catch 22 of a sort. He is willing to acknowledge our right for life and liberty, on the condition of that we won’t do a list of lies we are accused of doing. But since these are lies, no matter how much we, the Zionist Israelis, will try not to do them, his kind (or is it her kind?), will consider us doing them anyway, thereby refusing our right for life and liberty. Msherif, him I shouldn’t have missed, though most of his reply is the usual anti Israel mantra, here as an excuse for not answering the question, it could have been a good opportunity to explain Jewish nationhood and the right of self determination for all nations, where the ‘Law of Return’ is a key tool in gaining and maintaining that right for the Jews, as well as to correct several misguided conceptions about land ownership in Israel.


Sam samurai wrote:
To the self proclaimed Zionist I say, asking a person if they will give you Life and liberty, while taking his mother, father, brother,sister, and his identity is like asking a man you are about to murder to sign off on the murder with the hope that the signing off may allow you not to be killed; when all along you know you are going to kill him, because only then can you get his wife, his land, his house, his identity and his his claim to his citizenship. Isreal has more Liberty than any nation in this world and also growing resentment of the world, beware of History- Isreal one man may not be able to do anything but the entire world against Isreal autrocities is a burden no nation wants to face.
Sam Samurai’s response is a part of a concentrated reply to several other posters in the forum. The section where he replies to me makes his response is important. Putting aside the lies about Israel killing “father, brother, mother…” and stealing identity, (how exactly do we do that?), he apparently regards the very existence of Israel, and for that matter Jews who enjoy life and liberty, as murder, and calling something murder is a far stronger negation then just saying no.

And then there is this from seife, who signed as Adam.

Thank you Mr. Tibon for your objective view. I am the son of an Arab Muslim and Christian couple. I married into a Jewish American family. I know for a fact, that the majority of Arabs (Muslims and Christians) believe that the Jewish people have the right for life, liberty, and dignity. I am always surprised of how politicians on every side (not only Arab and Israeli) have been so successful in convincing both sides that the other group is a monster! Just read the history of the Jewish people and you will come to a quick conclusion that Muslims treated Jews better than anyone else over the years. The recent conflict started only after the massive immigration of European Jews to Palestine, and the declaration of the establishment of Israel. It is very understandable that the Arabs (Muslims and Christians) opposed it then. Who would like to give up land and control freely? Most of them accept it now, but unfortunately, are always surprised by the unjust one-sided rules they are subjected to by Israel. Many objective observers (not the current major news agencies, they are part of the problem) could consider the Israeli treatment of Arabs in the occupied territories as a form of racism. Unfortunately, the constant propaganda on all sides (Arab, Israeli, and American) has just fueled the emotion of everyone thus, the call by many, especially the extremists on both sides, to destroy the other. Very unfortunate and sad!!!



Adam
His claim that most Arabs would say ‘Yes’ to my question means his answer is ‘Yes’ or close to that. It is interesting that he considers me objective since I made it clear that I do not consider myself as such. And while I disagree with him on several of the points he made, it seems that on a moral level we have some common ground, which is encouraging. I never expect the other side to agree with me 100%, but if on morality and realism there is a common ground then may be there is hope.I am not a big fun of debating on forums, each and his/hers own taste I guess. In many cases the company on popular forums is similar to that associated with talkbacks, I prefer exchanging views on blogs, where there is a greater possibility for a constructive ex change. This is why I made no effort to reply and let the thread grow.

The dominant views themselves are not unique and can be found in Politico the Daily Kos, and elsewhere. Adam’s answer was certainly a surprise, one that undermined my lost of fait in human kind, the one that partake in popular forums and talkbacks that is, and it’s a good thing too. But when we look at the Israel bashers, those who have hard time keeping the word ‘No’ from slipping through their lips when asked whether Jews have the right to live; what their dominance among the critics of Israel tell us about the academic world and the political world they reflect?

Hope did surprised me, but it still a minority, and after all on the Israeli side we got our share of Arab bashers.

Friday, February 5, 2010

IDF Soldier Saves Palestinian Girl Life

A great news piece available on YouTube.
Shows the true face of the Israeli army despite the blood libels.



And remember, “stones can kill

Wednesday, February 3, 2010

Guardian vs. the IDF response to the Goldstone report the Guardian’s Monty Python moment

Imagine a stop motion animation where a big heavy hammer hits a wooden surface, but instead of a loud bang and a crash a faint chirp like sound is heard and the stricken wood has a small crack on its surface, nothing more. This type of absurdity is usually associated with the cartoons from the famous 'Monty Python’s Flying Circus' and not with respectable media services, such as the Guardian.

However, according to this distinguished British newspaper an 500 kg airplane dropped Israeli bomb produced the following damage to the El Bader flour mill, Gaza's only flour producing factory, seen in the pictures below taken from the IDF reply to the Goldstone report and a BBC report from June 2009.


Al Bader flourmill January 9 2009



Al Bader flourmill January 10 2009


Al Bader flourmill January 11 2009


Source: BBC


Source: BBC


Does that look like the kind of damage caused by a 500 kg bomb?

According to the Guardian, a UN demining team found the front half of a Mk82 airplane dropped bomb in the second floor of the Al Bader flour mill on January 25, 15 days after the place was supposedly bombed by the Israeli air force and destroyed the Gaza Strip only flour producing mill, as claimed by the Goldstone report and its defenders, who built a charge of war crimes against Israel saying we prevented food from the population of the Hamas controlled Gaza Strip, even though food keeps coming in daily from Israel.

According to the site of the Federation of American Scientists, the Mk82 is a 500 kg airplane dropped bomb, it is an unguided bomb, a dumb weapon, intended to create maximum blast and destruction, a fact that is not evident from the pictures above. The blast is so powerful that its casing is designed to slow down its fall so the bomber will have enough time to escape the blast. Now let's back up and look at those pictures again…if a jet fighter like the F-16A-D needs time to get the hell out of that thing how come the structure is intact, the roof is still there, and the machines look damaged but nothing like what we would expect from a 500 kg explosion? And judging from the quoted UN demining team in the Guardian who found the fragment in the second floor of the mill, the second floor is still there. In other words:


Guardian Gaza kaboom


And another thing: How did the supposed incriminating fragment get there? Where is its the point of entry? This is not a simple question, because according to ORDTECH MILITARY INDUSTRIES, a Greek defense company established in the mid-1980s, this 500kg bomb isn’t meant to penetrate, but to take out "fragment sensitive targets" in the outdoors such as, troops, oil facilities and radar. A building on the other hand is a good protection against fragments, therefore a bad target for this type of a bomb.

All this adds up to the following absurdity. The IDF has a detailed account of its activities at the time of the alleged bombing. It describes a complex ground battle that took place in the area of the Al Bader mill, involving troops, tanks and Apache helicopter gunships on the Israeli side, and booby trapped houses on the Hamas side, some of them adjoining the flourmill.

From the IDF response to Goldstone, p. 41 – 44:

163. With respect to the allegation of deliberate targeting of the el-Bader flour mill, the IDF conducted a command investigation, which gathered evidence from numerous sources, including relevant commanders and officers and ground and aerial forces. In addition, the investigator received information from the Israeli CLA, which was in direct contact with the owner of el-Bader flour mill, Mr. Rashad Hamada. The command investigation included several findings, which are delineated below.

164. From the outset of the Gaza Operation, the immediate area in which the flour mill was located was used by enemy armed forces as a defensive zone, due to its proximity to Hamas’s stronghold in the Shati refugee camp. Hamas had fortified this area with tunnels and booby-trapped houses, and deployed its forces to attack IDF troops operating there. For example, 200 meters south of the flour mill an IDF squad was ambushed by five Hamas operatives in a booby-trapped house; 500 meters east of the flour mill another squad engaged enemy forces in a house that was also used for weapons storage; and adjacent to the flour mill, two booby-trapped houses exploded.

165. The IDF ground operation in this area began on 9 January 2009, during night time. Before the ground operation, the IDF issued early warnings to the residents of the area, included recorded telephone calls, urging them to evacuate. Such telephone calls were made to the flour mill as well.

166. While preparing for the operation, the commanders identified the flour mill as a “strategic high point” in the area, due to its height and clear line of sight. Nevertheless, in the planning stage, it was decided not to pre-emptively attack the flour mill, in order to prevent damage to civilian infrastructure as much as possible.

167. In the course of the operation, IDF troops came under intense fire from different Hamas positions in the vicinity of the flour mill. The IDF forces fired back towards the sources of fire and threatening locations. As the IDF returned fire, the upper floor of the flour mill was hit by tank shells. A phone call warning was not made to the flour mill immediately before the strike, as the mill was not a pre-planned target.

168. Several hours after the incident, and following a report about fire in the flour mill, the IDF coordinated the arrival of several fire engines to fight the fire.

169. The Military Advocate General reviewed the findings and the records of the command investigation and other materials. In addition, the Military Advocate General reviewed the information included in the Human Rights Council Fact-Finding Report, as well as the transcript of the public testimony of Mr. Hamada to the Fact-Finding Mission.

170. Taking into account all available information, the Military Advocate General determined that the flour mill was struck by tank shells during combat. The Military Advocate General did not find any evidence to support the assertion that the mill was attacked from the air using precise munitions, as alleged in the Human Rights Council Fact-Finding Report. The Military Advocate General determined that the allegation was not supported in the Report itself, nor in the testimony to the Fact-Finding Mission by Rashad Hamada, who had left the area prior to the incident in response to the IDF’s early warnings. Photographs of the mill following the incident do not show structural damage consistent with an air attack.

171. The Military Advocate General found that, in the specific circumstances of combat, and given its location, the flour mill was a legitimate military target in accordance with the Law of Armed Conflict. The purpose of the attack was to neutralize immediate threats to IDF forces.

172. The Military Advocate General did not accept the allegation in the Human Rights Council Fact-Finding Report that the purpose of the strike was to deprive the civilian population of Gaza of food. In this regard, he noted the fact that shortly after the incident, the IDF allowed Palestinian fire trucks to reach the area and extinguish the flames, as well as the extensive amount of food and flour that entered Gaza through Israel during the Gaza Operation.

173. Although the Military Advocate General could not conclusively determine that the flour mill was in fact used by Hamas’s military operatives, there was some evidence of such use. The Military Advocate General noted that Mr. Hamada testified before the Fact-Finding Mission that after the operation he found empty bullets on the roof of the flour mill. This could not have been the result of IDF fire, since – as was evident from the findings of the command investigation – the IDF forces which occupied the mill’s compound three days after the incident did not occupy the roof of the mill, where they would have been exposed to enemy fire.

174. Accordingly, the Military Advocate General found no reason to order a criminal investigation regarding the case.
English spelling mistakes are at the source

The Guardian wishes to discredit all that by a single item, full of holes:

1) A bomb fragment, from a bomb that produces an explosion far more powerful then the one evident in the pictures above.

 2) An unknown point of entry. The UN demining team says they have two, as yet unavailable pictures, which may or may not show a point of entry.

3) An unknown point in time for this particular fragment to reach the mill, since it was found 15 days after the alleged bombing. Enough time for it to get there because of a separate set of circumstances, and to cool off if it was due to an explosion.

4) Other scenarios were not examined and discredited. It is important to note that there are other scenarios possible, more consistent with the evidence. It could have exploded elsewhere and the blast threw the fragment into the mill, it could have broken apart in mid air, or may be the actual content of the bomb was many times below 500 kg.

I, on my part, know that my sense of humor and creative absurdities are many times below those of Terry Gilliam, but apparently that is not the case when it comes to the Guardian’s accusations against Israel, at least the creative absurdities part of it. The problem is they weren’t trying to make a joke. And although first reaction is a giggle or two, it is really, really, not funny at all.

Hat tip: IsraelMatzav

Related link: When ludicrousness stops being funny, the Guardian Gaza report.